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I thought Doodle sold that track to Geoff Wilder who ultimately sold it to LUK.

I hope it's not in bad taste to talk about. I'm relaying it the way I understand it from my talks with Doodle because I found it intriguing. The Rosemary tract was sold to LUK in 2 phases. 1 South of 30A, the other North of 30A. I understood that Doodle had all the land in the original Barber tract in his control and the South Rosemary tract went to LUK before the North tract. How the South went from Doodle to LUK I don't know. I was just told that Rosemary was to be only South of 30A in its original plan.

What I do understand was that when the North 30A tract for Rosemary was in negotiation for purchase by LUK, Doodle flew to meet with LUK executives, including Joseph Steinberg, in NY and, instead of starting the negotiation with LUK's purchase of the North, Doodle turned the negotiation upside down by asking LUK what their expected return was going to be on the development of the North. They responded with their anticipated total return and, instead of moving forward with North talks, Doodle presented LUK with an offer, and a check, to purchase the South parcel back from them at that same rate of return.

Of course LUK rejected the offer to sell back the South parcel. This made it apparent that it was much more valuable to LUK than they previously had said and set the stage for continued negotiations on the North tract with Doodle in a much more fertile and advantageous position.

Pretty simple negotiating gambit on his part, but so exacting at the same time.
 
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PTWizard

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Jan 17, 2005
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I've always been interested in your neighborhood. I knew your house right away from the avatar view. I wondered where the beach access is from your home.

The avatar view is looking southeast. If you looked southwest at about the same angle you'd see the beach access, about 50 yards from the end of our driveway.
 

PTWizard

Beach Lover
Jan 17, 2005
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Columbus, OH
How many years has it been since construction started on the Hilton House? Four?

Obviously, it is very complex construction....guess I am just being nosy as to why it is taking so long. The house is fascinating!

Construction on the the Hilton House began in 1999. One reason, but not the only reason, it has taken so long to build is that eveything in this home, from the structural steel to the windows and doors are of a custome made one of a kind design. For an interesting look at the structural steel check out the photos of this home on arthurdyson.com.
 

30ashopper

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Right here!
Construction on the the Hilton House began in 1999. One reason, but not the only reason, it has taken so long to build is that eveything in this home, from the structural steel to the windows and doors are of a custome made one of a kind design. For an interesting look at the structural steel check out the photos of this home on arthurdyson.com.

"Primary rooms are suspended on concrete pods at various levels within a greenhouse structure of coral-tinted reflective glazing. One interior stairway encircles a glass-enclosed elevator, while another winds around fully grown native palms. The top lacuna of an exterior two-level saltwater swimming pool fountains into the lower basin, then enters the interior by flowing beneath the edge of a glazed wall. Tiered roof wings sweep upward, forming a series of clerestories that shield the open floor plan from excessive sun exposure while presenting unobstructed views of the oceanfront during daytime and allowing stargazing at night. Remote-controlled fabric panels placed strategically over the glazing provide additional solar protection."

Wow.
 

SHELLY

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Construction on the the Hilton House began in 1999. One reason, but not the only reason, it has taken so long to build is that eveything in this home, from the structural steel to the windows and doors are of a custome made one of a kind design. For an interesting look at the structural steel check out the photos of this home on arthurdyson.com.

If Hilton is as wealthy as everyone would like to believe, the reason this place isn't finished (now almost 10 years in the making) goes way beyond windows and doors.

It took only 5 years to build the Bellagio in Las Vegas--that was from the day of implosion of the old Dunes hotel in 1994 until the Bellagio opened its doors for business in 1998.

It has 36 stories, 3,026 rooms, and an 8 acre man-made lake with a $40 million dancing fountain with 1,200 nozzles, highlighted by 4,500 colored lights choreographed to shoot water up to 250 feet into the air.

It's apparent that Hilton doesn't have the wherewithal to get his beach house done--he's lacking something (money, skilled workers, sound construction, etc) and/or is benefiting in some personal/financial way by having this thing drag on and on and on.

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J-WS6

Beach Comber
May 22, 2007
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Houston, TX
Shelly made some good points. Maybe the house just isn't on the top of his priority list.

Regardless, I'd still love to see a night shot of the house...
 
If Hilton is as wealthy as everyone would like to believe, the reason this place isn't finished (now almost 10 years in the making) goes way beyond windows and doors.

It took only 5 years to build the Bellagio in Las Vegas--that was from the day of implosion of the old Dunes hotel in 1994 until the Bellagio opened its doors for business in 1998.

It has 36 stories, 3,026 rooms, and an 8 acre man-made lake with a $40 million dancing fountain with 1,200 nozzles, highlighted by 4,500 colored lights choreographed to shoot water up to 250 feet into the air.

It's apparent that Hilton doesn't have the wherewithal to get his beach house done--he's lacking something (money, skilled workers, sound construction, etc) and/or is benefiting in some personal/financial way by having this thing drag on and on and on.

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Have you seen the home where Charlie lives now? While others talk the talk Mr. Hilton walks the walk. He is a model of self discipline and if most Americans would follow his example we would not have an economy like we do.

He can do anything he wants with his property in Paradise within the limits of the law. He can also push the limits of the law as effectively as anyone I know of.
 
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