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LuciferSam

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That really isn't much of a personal insult anymore considering how watered down the meaning of the term has become over the last three years. All it really means is you disagree with someone's questions or criticisms of our current president and you've chosen to voice your opinion is a very childish way. ;-)

Baseless questioning of Obama's valid birth certification is hardly a criticism, it is a baseless attack. It constitutes harassment. It's not that I don't agree with the sore losers who make these charges, it's that there is no factual basis for them. They are wrong. There is not a matter of opinion. Our president met the burden of proof long before today. The joke is on those who have in any way supported or been sympathetic with this movement. Those are the childish ones.
 

poppy

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I missed the racist part of Trump. Care to share?

On the birth certificate issue, it should be fairly simple. The requirements to be President are extremely few, yet it takes three years for Obama to produce proof of one of the requirements. That is flawed. When I moved to Florida and went to the DMV to get a driver's license, they required that I showed them a certified copy of my birth certificate BEFORE getting my driver's license. Should be as simple when applying to run for President.

All of this in my opinion is just a big decoy from real issues America faces, and Trump doesn't know the answers to the key issues, so he brings up a sandbox issue. Obama must love that, because suddenly, the birth certificate and the Royal wedding are the only important issues. Go figure. Politricks.


Hey genius he met all the requirements, Fox News just refused to tell you. Legal documentation of the president's birth has been accessible online for more than three years.
 
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Here4Good

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On the birth certificate issue, it should be fairly simple. The requirements to be President are extremely few, yet it takes three years for Obama to produce proof of one of the requirements.

It took three years for him to produce it for YOU. Does anyone honestly think that this was not proven to the Secret Service, FBI, or whoever is in charge of this back in 2007? Seriously? It wasn't enough for the State of Hawaii Health Dept to produce it in 2008? That wasn't enough? You think Hillary's people didn't go down this path and decide is was a non-issue?

This is not a racist issue, it's a stupidity issue. Birthers = Stupid.
 

Rita

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Disappointed that the born in a Manger theory has been squashed. :sosad:.........:lol:
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Good one!..:wave:

I lump this conspiracy theory in with lies/deceptions purposely thrown out there in the hopes that they will get traction if repeated often enough - and there are always those who will want to believe these things. Others will blindly believe and tend to spread. What starts on the fringe can then make it’s way into the mainstream.

I wish karma would work faster!..:D
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30ashopper

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Baseless questioning of Obama's valid birth certification is hardly a criticism, it is a baseless attack. It constitutes harassment. It's not that I don't agree with the sore losers who make these charges, it's that there is no factual basis for them. They are wrong. There is not a matter of opinion. Our president met the burden of proof long before today. The joke is on those who have in any way supported or been sympathetic with this movement. Those are the childish ones.

Hey genius he met all the requirements, Fox News just refused to tell you. Legal documentation of the president's birth has been accessible online for more than three years.

It took three years for him to produce it for YOU. Does anyone honestly think that this was not proven to the Secret Service, FBI, or whoever is in charge of this back in 2007? Seriously? It wasn't enough for the State of Hawaii Health Dept to produce it in 2008? That wasn't enough? You think Hillary's people didn't go down this path and decide is was a non-issue?
This is not a racist issue, it's a stupidity issue. Birthers = Stupid.

So says three of the most die hard Obama fans on the board. Mmm kay.
 

LuciferSam

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It is stupidity for sure but I contend it's also tinged with racial prejudice. The story goes like this. A president is held to a higher standard of proof of birth than any President in history. He then plays along even though he already has a passport and driver's license. About three years ago he produces a document that meets the legal standards for certification of birth. It looks like every birth certificate I've ever seen. Should be the end of it but the harrassment continues. What would gall somebody to think they have the right to subject anybody to this kind of abuse other than some inherent sense of superiority? From what do they derive this sense of superiority? It's certainly not their intelligence. We've already determined that these people are stupid. There's no legal basis, there is no factual basis. It's sheer arrogance based on perceived standing in life, perceived superiority based on race, nationality, you name it.
 
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Here4Good

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Wow. You've really not been reading my posts, have you? You and I agree most of the time. I think I need to go back to lurking.
 

LuciferSam

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So says three of the most die hard Obama fans on the board. Mmm kay.

Why don't you try to back up your birther claims instead of questioning our credibility? You obviously disagree with our assertions, which means at the very least you have birther tendencies, so let's hear it.
 

Will B

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Here's an interesting twist. I'd go so far as to say that Obama and his camp relished all the birther comments, birther conspiracy theorists, and the like. By having these nut jobs out spewing birther crap at times when the Obama camp is off their game it deflects a lot of attention from where it should be placed. It also puts check marks in a lot of the boxes next to people who might run for election who could probably be construed as nut jobs and potentially helps the Obama camp in their 2012 campaign.

I'm sure they let this play out as long as there was any kind of political advantage that could be gained by not providing it and letting the birthers go nuts. When it ran its course, out it came.

Game over. It's all done.
 

LuciferSam

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Here's an interesting twist. I'd go so far as to say that Obama and his camp relished all the birther comments, birther conspiracy theorists, and the like. By having these nut jobs out spewing birther crap at times when the Obama camp is off their game it deflects a lot of attention from where it should be placed. It also puts check marks in a lot of the boxes next to people who might run for election who could probably be construed as nut jobs and potentially helps the Obama camp in their 2012 campaign.

I'm sure they let this play out as long as there was any kind of political advantage that could be gained by not providing it and letting the birthers go nuts. When it ran its course, out it came.

Game over. It's all done.

Yep! and it's not over. There are still a number of people insisting the long form is a forgery.
 
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