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Jim Tucker

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Jul 12, 2005
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Good time to revisit this out of my own curiosity. These are as of 10/4/24. All info from costar.

Madison at Owl's Head - 300 units - 88% vacant - asking $1.95 per foot. 0% concessions (I know this is wrong)
Riverwalk - 312 units - 36.7% vacant - asking $1.52 per foot. 4.1% concessions (probably a mix of new concessions and burn offs)
Hammock Bay - 400 units - 36.3% vacant - asking $1.83 per foot. 1% concessions.

Dune Lake - 280 units - 11% vacant - asking $1.95 per foot. 1% concessions.
Sanctuary 331 - 264 units - 11% vacant - asking $1.78 per foot. 1% concessions
Terra Mar - 310 units - 6.8% vacant - asking $1.70 per foot. 0.8% concessions.
NEW
The Beacon (by SWHS) - 260 units - 99.6% vacant - asking $2.02 per foot. 16.7% concessions (about 2 months free)

In Freeport, of these 3 multis with 1012 units, we went from 616 empty (61% vacant) to 524 empty (52% vacant) from July to October. Rents slightly down but about constant. Not terrible considering the off-season. Still a ton of units to absorb with many more under construction.

Of the first 3 in south Walton, of these 3 multis with 854 units, we went from 53 empty (6.2% vacant) to 81 empty (9.5% vacant) from July to October. Rents however dropped from averaging around $1.91/ft to around $1.81/ft.

So south of the bay, rents are down and vacancy is up. North of the bay is about holding steady with tenants bouncing around. Really interested to see how the new construction impacts the market. The one behind SWHS (The Beacon) is just starting to lease 260 units. Really interested to see how the one on Moll by St Rita (Saltaire - 256 units) delivers and continues to push down rents in the area. If anyone wants me to add a development to the list let me know - there are a few that I haven't tracked but can start.
Very much appreciated!
 

PJJ

Beach Lover
Oct 27, 2007
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Good time to revisit this out of my own curiosity. These are as of 10/4/24. All info from costar.

Madison at Owl's Head - 300 units - 88% vacant - asking $1.95 per foot. 0% concessions (I know this is wrong)
Riverwalk - 312 units - 36.7% vacant - asking $1.52 per foot. 4.1% concessions (probably a mix of new concessions and burn offs)
Hammock Bay - 400 units - 36.3% vacant - asking $1.83 per foot. 1% concessions.

Dune Lake - 280 units - 11% vacant - asking $1.95 per foot. 1% concessions.
Sanctuary 331 - 264 units - 11% vacant - asking $1.78 per foot. 1% concessions
Terra Mar - 310 units - 6.8% vacant - asking $1.70 per foot. 0.8% concessions.
NEW
The Beacon (by SWHS) - 260 units - 99.6% vacant - asking $2.02 per foot. 16.7% concessions (about 2 months free)

In Freeport, of these 3 multis with 1012 units, we went from 616 empty (61% vacant) to 524 empty (52% vacant) from July to October. Rents slightly down but about constant. Not terrible considering the off-season. Still a ton of units to absorb with many more under construction.

Of the first 3 in south Walton, of these 3 multis with 854 units, we went from 53 empty (6.2% vacant) to 81 empty (9.5% vacant) from July to October. Rents however dropped from averaging around $1.91/ft to around $1.81/ft.

So south of the bay, rents are down and vacancy is up. North of the bay is about holding steady with tenants bouncing around. Really interested to see how the new construction impacts the market. The one behind SWHS (The Beacon) is just starting to lease 260 units. Really interested to see how the one on Moll by St Rita (Saltaire - 256 units) delivers and continues to push down rents in the area. If anyone wants me to add a development to the list let me know - there are a few that I haven't tracked but can start.
Revisiting the slow moving train wreck of area multifamily economics in the area. CoStar was hit with a collusion lawsuit last year so the quality of data isn't as great as it was a year ago but this gives you an idea of where things seem to be now. Showing market (guessing Freeport/South Walton and probably PCB) vacancy at 21.9%.

Number of units is above so I'll just update the asking rents and vacancy. Concessions aren't accurate on costar so not bothering with that.

Owl's Head - asking $1.95 per foot - 80.3% vacant
Riverwalk - asking $1.51 - 26.4% vacant
Hammock Bay - asking $1.85 - 25% vacant
Dune Lakes - asking $1.98 - 11.4% vacant
Sanctuary at 331 - asking $1.98 - 7.6% vacant
Terra Mar - asking $1.87 - 7.4% vacant
Beacon by SWHS - asking $2.01 - 93.9% vacant

New to the party is Saltaire - 256 units still under construction, asking $2.33 for prelease I guess.

Also under construction is multi next to the Freeport Publix, looks like 2 separate projects on the west side of 331 in Freeport, one hidden on the north side of 98 near the new neighborhood Walmart, one east of Saltaire and several others that I'm not thinking of.

Bold prediction is in about 18 months rents south of the bay settle in around $1.50 per foot and north of the bay around $1.20 per foot with blended vacancy around 10%. Many will go back to the lenders.

BIG assumptions here but just throwing out there to show what that means if I'm right. For the Beacon, they probably underwrote rents at $2.25 per foot with 5% vacancy and 2% loss to lease (basically concessions and bad debt). Costar shows 254,741 rentable SF. That's about $6,396k in annual revenue. Assume a 35% expense ratio that's net operating income of $4,157k. They probably assumed a 5% cap rate so a value of $83 million. Now assume $1.50 per foot, 10% vacancy and 2% loss to lease. That takes NOI down to $2,623k. We'll say cap rates are now at 6% (generous) given higher interest rates and your value is now about $43 million. Again big assumptions but that's how investors are looking at this, back of the envelope. Actually discounting more than that but I'm trying to be fair.

Now we'll do Owl's Head. 401,680 SF. I'll assume they underwrote rents at $2 per foot, same vacancy, loss to lease and expense ratio assumptions. $3,138k NOI - 5 cap is about $63 million. They have debt of $53.8 million so their going in value assumptions had to be AT LEAST $75 million. New math - same assumptions in 18 months as above ($1.20/ft - 10% vacancy, 6 cap) - new NOI of $1,781k, value of about $29.7 million.

The reason so many of these were built (besides the ease of permitting them here) is because interest rates were artificially low for so long. That ship has sailed and as the construction loans mature, not only are they getting killed with lower revenue, their debt service has gone way up with reset interest rates. They'll never hit their debt service payments much less their covenants (probably 1.25x what is needed to service the debt) and so deal after deal after deal after deal will be going back to the lenders.

So to the original post, Glidewell's utter nonsense "having government make land available to developers at a lower or no cost..It’s basic economics – supply and demand... right now, we’ve got no supply and high demand. That’s going to create cost increases and that’s just the laws of economics" is comical. It's going to be a lot more ridiculous as more and more supply keeps coming online.
 
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SUP Boarder

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Jun 12, 2019
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Seacrest
Interesting......but not much detail re: rent etc....

Pineapple Willy's Housing Project

....this past November, work officially started on the 34 new units, each featuring three bedrooms and three bathrooms. They are being built off Moylan Road exclusively for staff at Pineapple Willy’s and Wicked Wheel.

Phase 1 of the project, consisting of 17 units
, is set to be completed by the end of March. Construction on three additional duplexes will begin immediately afterward.

This four-and-a-half-acre property will provide housing for up to 102 employees of Pineapple Willy’s and Wicked Wheel
 

leeboy

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Aug 19, 2015
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I remember hearing about some local restaurant owners doing something like this but I don't know if it went anywhere...



Pineapple Willy’s is tackling Panama City Beach’s housing issue by providing affordable homes for its employees.

One of the final wishes of the late owner of Pineapple Willy’s was to provide his employees with more affordable housing. This year, that vision is becoming a reality.

“Bill Buskell, the owner of Pineapple Willy’s had a vision, to address the housing issues in Panama City Beach for his employees. After Hurricane Michael, he had the idea that he was going to build employee housing. So this employee housing would work with the employees to give them reduced cost in housing because housing costs have risen over time. This should help bridge that gap,” said Darrell Sellers, Project Manager of Pineapple Willy’s.

Bill Buskell sadly passed away just 18 days before construction was set to begin on Pineapple Villas. However, this past November, work officially started on the 34 new units, each featuring three bedrooms and three bathrooms. They are being built off Moylan Road exclusively for staff at Pineapple Willy’s and Wicked Wheel.

Phase 1 of the project, consisting of 17 units, is set to be completed by the end of March. Construction on three additional duplexes will begin immediately afterward.

“We do have many employees who will drive an hour, an hour plus, some of them live locally, close by, but even if you live close if you live across the bridge, that commute can get very timely, especially peak season, so we’re trying to help everybody out,” said Sellers.

This four-and-a-half-acre property will provide housing for up to 102 employees of Pineapple Willy’s and Wicked Wheel.

Three years later, Buskell’s vision has become a reality—giving dozens of workers a place to live and thrive.
 

PJJ

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Oct 27, 2007
131
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Trending worse. Overall market vacancy 20.4%.

Owl's Head - asking $1.68 per foot - 84.7% vacant
Riverwalk - asking $1.44 - 24.4% vacant
Hammock Bay - asking $1.84 - 23.3% vacant
Dune Lakes - asking $1.97 - 11.1% vacant
Sanctuary at 331 - asking $1.96 - 4.6% vacant
Terra Mar - asking $1.78 - 7.1% vacant
Beacon by SWHS - asking $1.91 - 89.6% vacant
Saltaire - asking $2.31 pre-lease

New - The Pearl - near the neighborhood Walmart - 406 units - $2.06 per foot - 82.1% vacant

So in Freeport, counting the 3 major multifamily properties, 423 of 1,012 units are vacant. I'd say there are at least 700 new units under construction. As of the 2020 census there were 5,861 people living in Freeport with 959 households. Within 12 months we will have more vacant multifamily units in Freeport than the total number of households in the town as of the last census.
 

PJJ

Beach Lover
Oct 27, 2007
131
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Peak season update

Owl's Head asking $1.47 per foot - 70.3% vacant
Riverwalk asking $1.45 per foot - 24.4% vacant
Hammock Bay asking $1.88 per foot - 23.3% vacant
Dune Lake asking $1.89 per foot - 11.1% vacant
Sanctuary at 331 asking $1.78 per foot - 6.4% vacant
Terra Mar asking $1.76 per foot - 8.1% vacant
Beacon by SWHS asking $1.91 per foot - 63.1% vacant
Saltaire preleasing at $2.20 per foot
The Jewel (previously called it the pearl - multi near the neighborhood WM) asking $2.11 per foot, 60% vacant

Also new to the party are Ramsey Branch - east side of 331 south of 20 in Freeport - asking $1.82 per foot, 99.2% vacant and The Waters next to the Freeport Publix preleasing at $1.96 per foot.

Peak season, rents keep dropping and the only ones that I'm tracking that are near a stabilized occupancy are Sanctuary at 331, Terra Mar and to a lesser extent Dune Lakes. DL is also only covering 82% of their interest only debt from operational income as of FYE24.

Avg rents in Freeport dropped from $1.75 to $1.66 in the past 12 months. SW about the same but it's buoyed by new deliveries asking higher rates. If you take the 3 I looked at 12 months ago, avg rents went from $1.91 to $1.81. Vacancy in Freeport went from 61% to 50% in 12 months (61% to 30% not counting new deliveries) and 6% to 32% in SW (6% to 9% not counting new deliveries). Owl's Head dropped rents 25% and went from 90% vacant to 70% vacant in 12 months.

If this follows last year we should expect to see vacancy increase and rents decrease south of the bay after the summer season.

Pretty sure I said this before but the developers that are building these are underwriting to a 5-8% vacancy in year 3 with at least 3% annual rent growth and that's when they sell to a permanent owner like a REIT. I doubt Freeport gets inside a 10% vacancy for at least 3 more years and they'll have to do it with more rent drops. SW underwrote AT LEAST $2 per foot which is why you see preleasing and new deliveries there since they have a little margin of error to pretend they aren't above the market (and with concessions aka free months rent they are well inside of $2/ft). The vast majority of equity investors will get wiped out and several banks will have to take a loss to exit these.
 

UofL

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Jan 21, 2005
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FYI one restaurant owner in our neighborhood has rented a home for his employees in our neighborhood. He is now building a new version of his restaurant which includes housing for his employees. Yes, Hispanic restaurant, mostly males. Maybe housing for students? We have to think out of the box when some businesses need employees where those employees can't afford to live. It's only going to get worse isn't it? Many of us wonder if our locals will be attacked by 'ice'. Ellen
 

Mike Jones

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Dec 24, 2008
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Peak season update

Owl's Head asking $1.47 per foot - 70.3% vacant
Riverwalk asking $1.45 per foot - 24.4% vacant
Hammock Bay asking $1.88 per foot - 23.3% vacant
Dune Lake asking $1.89 per foot - 11.1% vacant
Sanctuary at 331 asking $1.78 per foot - 6.4% vacant
Terra Mar asking $1.76 per foot - 8.1% vacant
Beacon by SWHS asking $1.91 per foot - 63.1% vacant
Saltaire preleasing at $2.20 per foot
The Jewel (previously called it the pearl - multi near the neighborhood WM) asking $2.11 per foot, 60% vacant

Also new to the party are Ramsey Branch - east side of 331 south of 20 in Freeport - asking $1.82 per foot, 99.2% vacant and The Waters next to the Freeport Publix preleasing at $1.96 per foot.

Peak season, rents keep dropping and the only ones that I'm tracking that are near a stabilized occupancy are Sanctuary at 331, Terra Mar and to a lesser extent Dune Lakes. DL is also only covering 82% of their interest only debt from operational income as of FYE24.

Avg rents in Freeport dropped from $1.75 to $1.66 in the past 12 months. SW about the same but it's buoyed by new deliveries asking higher rates. If you take the 3 I looked at 12 months ago, avg rents went from $1.91 to $1.81. Vacancy in Freeport went from 61% to 50% in 12 months (61% to 30% not counting new deliveries) and 6% to 32% in SW (6% to 9% not counting new deliveries). Owl's Head dropped rents 25% and went from 90% vacant to 70% vacant in 12 months.

If this follows last year we should expect to see vacancy increase and rents decrease south of the bay after the summer season.

Pretty sure I said this before but the developers that are building these are underwriting to a 5-8% vacancy in year 3 with at least 3% annual rent growth and that's when they sell to a permanent owner like a REIT. I doubt Freeport gets inside a 10% vacancy for at least 3 more years and they'll have to do it with more rent drops. SW underwrote AT LEAST $2 per foot which is why you see preleasing and new deliveries there since they have a little margin of error to pretend they aren't above the market (and with concessions aka free months rent they are well inside of $2/ft). The vast majority of equity investors will get wiped out and several banks will have to take a loss to exit these.
Unsurprisingly All 3 of those you mention as doing well have advertised on this site which has a ton of long term rental activity.
 
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