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30ashopper

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Right here!
Isn't rationing socialism? Just asking...:cool:

When in Rome... :D

Really, since government is a bottomless pit of funding controlled by self serving politicians, it's easy for entitlements like this to spiral out of control. Europe is a perfect example, as is our Medicare system. To control costs of anything funded by the government (vs. the individual market which is regulated by income availability) you have to cap costs some how. Every government funded health system out there involves rationing. We'll end up doing that with ObamaCare once the all-you-can-eat system democrats have designed blows up in our faces.
 

AndrewG

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Down the road this opens the door for rationing pension plans that are spiraling out of control and underfunded.
 

Rita

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I wouldn't go so far as to label it death panels but definitely rationing.
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From the best source of bipartisan research and fact checking I have found:

Health care reform: A simple explanation, updated
PolitiFact | Health care reform: A simple explanation, updated

'Rationing' and other scare words in health debate
PolitiFact | 'Rationing' and other scare words in health debate
John Boehner:The health bill's plan for comparative effectiveness research "would be used by the government to ration care."
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Sarah Palin: Seniors and the disabled "will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care."
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PolitiFact | Statements we say are Pants on Fire!

Nancy Pfotenhauer: The president's health care proposals will cause "most Americans to have their premiums increased, not decreased, and hundreds of millions of people lose their current insurance coverage."
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PolitiFact | Health care reform does not increase premiums and boot people out of their coverage

John Raese: Under the new health care law, "the first person (a) patient has to go to is a bureaucrat. That is called a panel."
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PolitiFact | John Raese says health care law forces patients to go to a bureaucrat before a doctor

chain e-mail: "All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services."
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PolitiFact | No free health care for illegal immigrants in the health bill



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AndrewG

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Mar 10, 2010
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You're focused on the wrong people. What are the people around the President tasked with structuring policy saying... I'm more focused on those in power than those trying to get elected.
 
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