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WaltonIsOne

Beach Lover
Nov 14, 2009
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The Mis-Informed need to read their electric bill

Sorry for this long post.

For some unknown reason, those who talk about ocean drilling concern themselves only with oil. Natural Gas is also a product of ocean drilling. A very clean source of energy.

Those who support of the use of LSV's in South Walton need to realize that a large amount of the power in Walton County comes from Natural Gas powered electric power production plants. Take a look at your Chelco power bill. The information is contained there for your reference.

Meanwhile, SOME OF THOSE who support LSV use in Walton suggest the those of us who drive automobiles, take the "feeder routes" to highway 98, to navigate "around" 30A. That makes real sense (not)! Using more time and fuel to cover the same distance, in some cases, two to three times the amount of fuel and time. Again, what are SOME OF THESE LSV supporters thinking? It appears, not much at all.

I suspect there are many LSV supporters that understand the realities of the proposed "feeder road use" for automobiles solution. (just a small rant, why do LSV supporters believe that their time is more valuable than automobile drivers? Transplanted "Elitists" I suspect who have no clue as to how to ride a bicycle. )

I agree with the poster that one must have a complete plan to reduce their overall use of fossil fuels involving automobile, home and business consumption. This is actually quite simple to undertake, and with a few low cost minor improvements and maintenance performed to their home, can result in a tremendous amount of energy savings (in my personal case, over 30% reduction in energy usage).

The easiest way to reduce energy usage is to look at what energy one is using today and find each and every way to reduce the usage by simply applying common sense and very few dollars to eliminate energy waste. Instead of downsizing one's large automobile/SUV to a smaller energy efficient vehicle, one could just spend the money on the maintenance necessary to make sure the vehicle is running as efficient as possible.

In this poster's view, it is much better to seek out how one can be as energy efficient as possible, versus telling other people what they should do (like telling people to ditch their SUVs). And just for the record, my car is a small and efficient vehicle that gets 36 MPG and I ditched my SUV years ago in my own personal effort to reduce energy usage. I miss the SUV for the obvious safety reasons, but this means I just have to concentrate on being a better defensive driver and do a better job to avoid the idiots who drive on 30A, Highway 98 and the rest of the planet for that matter.

"Citizens are stronger when they stick together" ( quote from WaltonIsOne)
 

John R

needs to get out more
Dec 31, 2005
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Let's not forget, the people that are driving to the meeting in their SUV's are the same people that drive to bars and restaurants and support local businesses and employees. Some restaurants are not positioned to be walked to by everyone, so chastising large vehicle owners could be tantamount to biting the hand that one feeds.
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
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And also, I know in my last post I said I was done with this and nothing more to say, however,...............

It has come to my attention that some people on here think I own a restaurant.
LET ME BE 1000% CRYSTAL CLEAR. I AM NOT WHO YOU THINK I AM.
I do not own a restaurant. You do not need to be harboring any ill
will towards a specific restaurant owner. Said owner has nothing to
do with the comments made here by me.

Now, I am finished with this post. Good will and good luck to you all.

Wow :blink: - so not only do they not have a clue who you are, they are actually making problems for someone else because of your common sense posts about fuel consumption!?! Guess I better hide since I thanked you for them. Talk about nonsense. :roll:

P.S. I actually know NOLA and can definitively say they are NOT a restaurant owner. :rofl:
 

robertsondavies

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Apr 16, 2006
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I thought it was too, but I think someone has a golf cart/LSV business.

Why do you keep questioning everyones motive? I do not own a golf cart LSV biz, sorry.... Free world I guess ... rock on in your hardened and aggressive defensive of large SUV's and railing against oil drilling and electric vehicles.

I think someone sells large SUV's by day, and and Sierra Club, keep 30-A great bumper stickers at night.

the irony is humorous at best
 

John R

needs to get out more
Dec 31, 2005
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Could go to brunch in this and be politically correct?
 

Jdarg

SoWal Expert
Feb 15, 2005
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Why do you keep questioning everyones motive? I do not own a golf cart LSV biz, sorry.... Free world I guess ... rock on in your hardened and aggressive defensive of large SUV's and railing against oil drilling and electric vehicles.

I think someone sells large SUV's by day, and and Sierra Club, keep 30-A great bumper stickers at night.

the irony is humorous at best


You are the one hammering your LSV stats on several threads, and I am not the only one who finds it amazing that an average Joe would know soo much about them. I have said this before- I am against LSVs on public roadways for safety reasons, not because I love my own SUV. Having tourists (and locals) cruising around on 30A with small children in them and vacation mentality behind the wheel is a terrible idea, and I can say this because I have already seen it. They are totally appropriate in a resort setting, but totally inappropriate on public roadways that are used by people that are NOT on vacation- the entire 30A roadway is not one all-inclusive resort.

WaltonOne's post is a good one - and yes, "Citizens are Stronger When they Stick Together".
 

robertsondavies

Beach Fanatic
Apr 16, 2006
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WaltonOne's post is a good one - and yes, "Citizens are Stronger When they Stick Together".

let's just stick to discussing the issues, rather than people.

An interesting issue you raise, is the desirability of either overwhelming majority, either simple or pluralistic - its not clear.
I'm opposed to the group think mentality idea above you reference. I think citizens/community are/is only weakened by tamping down discussion of the issues under the guise of citizens sticking together. When you're dealing with complex issues, such as ingress egress roads, LSV usage, middle beach road options, energy conservation/optimization a muriad of concerns are on the table. For instance, some people's concern for personal safety, trumps their reverance for safety of the planet, and so on if only slightly, and only on weekdays. And for others, who for instance have homes on by example San Juan Ave. their property interest or related damage thereto, may trump the majorities interest in establishing new ingress/egress through their front porches to avoid congestion 4 months of the year. Others might be feeding their children by selling LSV's and yet others in our community might be working at an SUV dealership in PCB.... and yet still others might support themselves by selling grouper sandwiches or condo's, and therefore their interests in maintaining 30A as a resort area, may trump their desire to deal with congestion issues in ways that kill or delimit the golden resort goose that lays their eggs. and then again government employees with steady paychecks may be less interested in preservation of resort feel concerns, and more interested in saving many minutes a day for several days a year, as they make their way through life on 30A as residents who need to run errands, pick up children, buy groceries etc. 365 days a year, and strive for more quality of life.
 
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