...all you need to do is sell two $287,500 plates of Pad Thai and you're golden.
SJ, you're suggesting that folks crunch the numbers to determine if a place can cashflow?? --you're a wild and crazy guy!!
PJ's Coffee & Planet Smoothie - both locations closed permanently
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...all you need to do is sell two $287,500 plates of Pad Thai and you're golden.
SJ, you're suggesting that folks crunch the numbers to determine if a place can cashflow?? --you're a wild and crazy guy!!
So, how is the US Small Business Administration involved exactly? Are the US taxpayers on the hook for this mess?
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My understanding is that a small business loan must be backed by assets equaling the value of the loan and those assets are forfeited if the loan goes bad. I would really hope that the government isn't getting in the business of short sales (read writing off bad debt at tax payers expense).
and at the time the loan was given, the assets, the business condo, likely did equal the value of the loan. Now, it doesn't, so it will likely be the taxpayers eating that lunch.
I owned a coffee shop from 2004 - 2007. The guy I sold it to just relocated it across town due to a near complete collapse of the "revitalized" downtown effort back home. I had a fairly "busy" location, sandwiched between the City/County/State/Federal courthouses. Within a block and half were 4500 - 5000 government employees, I was the daily coffee break. I still struggled some months.
The specialty coffee business is a head count game. If you can't turn 300 people a day in a location don't bother looking any further. I can tell you from experience that there is absolutely NO WAY to cash flow a coffee shop in the Redfish location at that price right now and probably not ever. Based on the upfront costs for this location you'd need to turn around 750 people a day to make it work. On the busiest summer day there's no way to get close at Redfish unless every unit was full and all of the nearby development provided additional support.
The specialty coffee business is a head count game. If you can't turn 300 people a day in a location don't bother looking any further. I can tell you from experience that there is absolutely NO WAY to cash flow a coffee shop in the Redfish location at that price right now and probably not ever. Based on the upfront costs for this location you'd need to turn around 750 people a day to make it work. On the busiest summer day there's no way to get close at Redfish unless every unit was full and all of the nearby development provided additional support.
I heard someone say the one in Watercolor closed as well? I drove by today around 4pm and it was closed. What up?
If I were going to develop the property, I'd look around to surrounding areas and see which businesses are thriving and pick a type of business that Sowal lacks. Actually a Thai restaurant might be quite good. FWB has a LOT of Thai restaurants due to the large Thai population there. (We like Daddy's in ME, Thai House off Racetrack, Mahkong Thai downtown...but there's also Thai Hut, Ractrack Cafe Thai, Orchid House, Thai Kitchen, Thai Saree, Bankok House, and many others that I've seen but cannot name.) There are also a few thriving Thai markets. I think those markets are missing an opportunity of their own, so here's an idea...
Combo Thai restaurant, and Thai market that offers cooking classes and demonstrations on how to use the Thai ingredients. If you've been into any of the markets, it's very intimidating. Through trial and error (and one very kind woman who doesn't mind helping me when she's there ), I've been able to scratch the surface of Thai cooking and ingredients, but I'd buy a lot more ingredients if I knew what to do with them.
We've seen an influx of Mexican markets in Sowal, and Vietnamese markets in Pensacola. What about an International market bringing all of them (and others) together?
Combo Thai restaurant, and Thai market that offers cooking classes and demonstrations on how to use the Thai ingredients. If you've been into any of the markets, it's very intimidating. Through trial and error (and one very kind woman who doesn't mind helping me when she's there ), I've been able to scratch the surface of Thai cooking and ingredients, but I'd buy a lot more ingredients if I knew what to do with them.
We've seen an influx of Mexican markets in Sowal, and Vietnamese markets in Pensacola. What about an International market bringing all of them (and others) together?
What a cool idea!